OK I've just come across another mention of the Outlet. Fred Briggs would have to give permission for the source. Scott and I did talk and I understand there is some kind of foundation found and mega Native articles. I've read that at the old outlet on Chisholm's old property in 1856 "they" (the author didn't say who they were) were building Gordon's house. Doesn't say if Gordon is first or last name. Anyone know of a possible for this person or the location of where he lived??? I do know that no one reading this would have first hand knowledge (LOL) but they may have known of a family of that name on the Halton side. By all calculations it had to be roughly in the area of the dig. Chisholm's property bordered the outlet.
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Willow isn't working too well for me. I'm anal about some things and I have to find it myself. Then if it's Willow I'll be happy. BUT Willow isn't 66 chains from the canal and a report I'm not sure I have online yet says the outlet was inside Brant's Pond. We have the ariel showing Brant's Pond and to be inside that seems farther up the Beach. Willow doesn't seem far enough north. I will find the area if it kills me! I know Fred is set on it but he's using different sources than I am. Looking at that picture if it was inside of the Pond then the Burlington Races were really out in lala land. Very shallow in there. If I'd believed what some write about the Fort at the outlet I would never have unearthed the info I did. It takes alot of pieces to finish a puzzle.
Willow isn't working too well for me. I'm anal about some things and I have to find it myself. Then if it's Willow I'll be happy. BUT Willow isn't 66 chains from the canal and a report I'm not sure I have online yet says the outlet was inside Brant's Pond. We have the ariel showing Brant's Pond and to be inside that seems farther up the Beach. Willow doesn't seem far enough north. I will find the area if it kills me! I know Fred is set on it but he's using different sources than I am. Looking at that picture if it was inside of the Pond then the Burlington Races were really out in lala land. Very shallow in there. If I'd believed what some write about the Fort at the outlet I would never have unearthed the info I did. It takes alot of pieces to finish a puzzle.
The Commissioners reports I read said when the first canal failed on the Lake side they considered building a new canal but because of costs determined keeping the canal they had and redesigning the Lake entrance was a better idea. They had to build a better structure to be more protected from the east waves. I still haven't seen any proof they built two distinctive canals.
Not two canals, but the first one was widen when the secend bascule bridge was added, so we would have to measure from about half way arcoss present day canal to your 66 chains finding.
A Google search shows that 66 chains is equal to 1.3 km, to me Willow Ave seems closer than that, I guess we will have to measure it.
A Google search shows that 66 chains is equal to 1.3 km, to me Willow Ave seems closer than that, I guess we will have to measure it.
A Google search shows that 66 chains is equal to 1.3 km, to me Willow Ave seems closer than that, I guess we will have to measure it.
I have already done that. There is a ruler in google earth that will show you the distances. I went down to the dig today. Didn't speak to anyone or get in but I looked at the distance between the dig which is close to where 66 chains comes on google and Willow Ave, It's not that far. The outlet was probably between. It had to have had some width to it. My guess is the dig is one shore and Willow Ave the other. Now to disprove that the outlet was inside of Brant's Pond.
I have already done that. There is a ruler in google earth that will show you the distances. I went down to the dig today. Didn't speak to anyone or get in but I looked at the distance between the dig which is close to where 66 chains comes on google and Willow Ave, It's not that far. The outlet was probably between. It had to have had some width to it. My guess is the dig is one shore and Willow Ave the other. Now to disprove that the outlet was inside of Brant's Pond.
I just checked again and being older I refused to convert to metric so I work in feet. 1 chain is 66' so 66 chains is 4,356' and that puts it just about where you show. Now if by chance the outlet was inside Brant's Pond that's definitely looking better. I'm no expert on water flow but logic tells me that the Creek at Brant's would have a more direct impact on water flow. By the time it came from Burlington Heights it would be the whole Bay flowing. Look at the picture of Brant's Pond. There is a sizable land mass point going into the Bay. Would it not be reasonable to think a flow of water would work through the sand strip north of that point rather than flowing through the gap and making a left to the Beach? See why I'm not ready to blindly accept Willow Ave. as the outlet? I may be out in left field but until I get a definite point I'm up in the air on it.
They are back digging, the tent has been removed and now the crew are searching the area that was outside of the tent.
The dig should finish some time in June and I am told that a final report will be issued, hopefully we can get a link to that and I will post it.
I can guess that here maybe some delays due the constant poor weather and it doesn't help that the water level is so high.
A few from today and thanks to the people at Halton Region.
The dig should finish some time in June and I am told that a final report will be issued, hopefully we can get a link to that and I will post it.
I can guess that here maybe some delays due the constant poor weather and it doesn't help that the water level is so high.
A few from today and thanks to the people at Halton Region.
Thanks Peggy;
As I wrote earlier, there should a final report and hopefully we will have access to it. However the Region did send me a link to a presentation on the dig.
The link shows the whole meeting, the part on the progess of the dig is at the 35:35 mark.
http://www.halton.ca/cms/One.aspx?portalId=8310&pageId=61065
As I wrote earlier, there should a final report and hopefully we will have access to it. However the Region did send me a link to a presentation on the dig.
The link shows the whole meeting, the part on the progess of the dig is at the 35:35 mark.
http://www.halton.ca/cms/One.aspx?portalId=8310&pageId=61065